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Tags....OMG, what have I done?

Hiya! Just your friendly community moderator dropping in to say "OMGWTF happened to the tags?!?!" :D

Here's the situation. I've been extraordinarily busy and didn't feel like I had the time to keep up with the requests for tag additions that I was getting through comments and email, so I went ahead and changed the community options on who could create tags from just me to any member. Then I made the mistake of not checking in to see how it was going, for which I humbly and profusely apologize. One of the community members dropped me a line today and brought to my attention that the tag list had grown out of control with duplicate tags (alternate or misspellings, plurals, etc.), useless tags like "50book challenge" (uh...why do you need to tag your posts in the 50bookchallenge community as 50bookchallenge??), and a general glut of overly specific tags like obscure authors, etc.

So, I've made an executive decision. Not only have I changed the tag options back to allow only community maintainers to create new tags, I'm going to delete 99% of the author tags. Before you get upset, let me explain!!

This community has LJ Seek enabled on it (which, in addition to the link I've placed in this post, can also be found in the community profile *and* in the links sidebar when viewing the community pages). What this means to all of you is that if you want to search for any text string in the community entries, you can. Since people's entries almost always include the book title and author, I think that it's redundant to have tags for authors, since if you want to see lists of entries that talk about books by any particular author, you can use LJ Seek. Since genre is not mentioned in people's book reviews nearly as often, I think that's where the usefulness of tags really lies, so that's where I'm going to head with the tag list.

So, the new guidelines for tags are going to be that I will entertain requests for tags for genres, content, subject matter, types of awards, book lists, etc. I will *NOT* create new tags for book titles or authors. I am also going to monitor the tag list and clean up any tags that don't generate more than 5 uses or so. This is to try to control the proliferation of uberspecific genre tags that no one really understands or uses.

ETA: I also have to add...I can only shake my head in disbelief that I'm actually finding tags for people's personal LJ user IDs. Buh? There are over SIX THOUSAND members in this community...do you really think it's reasonable to make PERSONAL tags to track your own posts? The mind boggles. For real.

Comments? Questions? Suggestions?

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busy91
Nov. 8th, 2007 08:59 pm (UTC)
something to entertain:

Native American Lit
susannag
Dec. 1st, 2007 09:12 pm (UTC)
Maybe one for "historical mystery" - i.e., a mystery novel with a historical setting?
musesong
Dec. 12th, 2007 11:37 am (UTC)
For genre tags how about 'cyberpunk'?
pure_spunk
Dec. 28th, 2007 06:25 pm (UTC)
Could we get a 'Shakespeare' tag?
sobota
Jan. 3rd, 2008 12:22 am (UTC)
i would like to see these:

postmodern fiction
early modern fiction
foreign language - original
foreign language - translated
semiautobiographical

if at all possible! thank you!

Edited at 2008-01-03 12:23 am (UTC)
caseyistrendy
Jan. 4th, 2008 01:20 am (UTC)
can i get a satire?
not_to_bore_you
Feb. 3rd, 2008 03:41 pm (UTC)
I think it's time for another tag clean-up.
quoting_mungo
Mar. 3rd, 2008 05:47 pm (UTC)
Can we have the non-fiction and nonfiction tags merged?
Should the entries previously tagged horseback fall under "animals" as it seems between me posting my 6-10 and my 11-15 entry, the horse tag was removed?

I also find the "international" and "foreign language" tags pretty confusing. What's "international"? Anything not written in Sweden or Swedish? Anything not written in the US or English? Does that mean the books I read in my native language are "foreign language" books? I have no objection to those tags as such, but I do want to question their usefulness.

"canada" and "canadian lit" seems pretty redundant as well. If we're sorting things based on origin, I'd think continent would be specific enough; if we're sorting based on where things are set, ditto, really.

And what's the purpose of the "book review" tag?

Just a pile of random thoughts, don't know that all of them are useful.


-Alexandra
musesong
Mar. 12th, 2008 07:46 pm (UTC)
Hi Alexandra,

Thank you for your feedback about tags and I'll discuss them with jadis.

I had planned to merge the non-fiction and nonfiction tags, though as this is a manual job with 136 tags I am waiting until I had a clear space to do it.

Sorry about the horseback tag, perhaps sports and animals would cover this activity?

As for the 'book review' tag I think that is a legacy of the period prior to the revamp of posting guidelines when many people just posted lists without any reviews or commentary.

As for the international and Canada (lit) I shall have a look at the way the tags have been used. A lot of these tags stem from the time in 2006 when they were first introduced and members could add their own new tags. As a result things went a little wild prompting jadis changes as per this post.

~ Vivienne
julielu
Mar. 24th, 2008 10:22 pm (UTC)
Can we add Scottish romance, or highlander romance, or just plain Scottish? Also, how about time travel?
meatina
Mar. 30th, 2008 05:04 pm (UTC)
How about a self-help tag?
rosethorne
Apr. 4th, 2008 08:15 am (UTC)
Can I recommend a "pirates" tag? There are a lot of those books out there and it'd be a useful tag.
mdyesowitch
Apr. 24th, 2008 03:51 pm (UTC)
You may think this is covered under sport, and if you do, that's understandable, but I'd like to see a separate "baseball" tag.
arylla
May. 13th, 2008 06:41 pm (UTC)
May I request a tag for German lit? I don't know if anyone beside me needs that tag, but it'd come in handy for me, because I'm reading a lot of German books.
rosethorne
Feb. 6th, 2009 05:47 pm (UTC)
Can we have tags for regionalism and dragons?

Also, realism, war, banned book, and Vonnegut?

Oh, and non-linear?

Edited at 2009-02-06 05:54 pm (UTC)
noachoc
Jul. 20th, 2009 08:29 pm (UTC)
Hey, can we have a zombie tag? It may be too specific, but it seems to cover a lot of things that are going around lately, like World War Z and Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.

I just picked up a couple more zombie books and it might come in handy.
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